Paving Facts

PAVING, THE FIVE MILLION DOLLAR CON:

RESPONSES TO COMMENTS BY GRACE, THE WOMAN

WHO PROFESSES TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT PAVING.

On the very private blog owned and operated by David Israel, a woman by the name of Grace had made a number of statements, -- rather dumb statements, I must say.  So, inasmuch as she has mentioned that my recent posting regarding paving is “nonsense,” I really need to respond.

Grace – I hope that you are going to read these responses on this free and open blog and I would certainly debate what you have to say about paving.  As a Registered Architect, I’ve designed, produced working drawings and specifications, and supervised paving projects for about 350 bituminous paving jobs from residential driveways to major highways.

Note:  the underlined emphasis represents the actual statements as they appeared on the “private blog.”

Grace makes the statement – “I have read the nonsense from Ed Ross about the roads.  He is an architect, not a paving expert.”  This statement is just an indication of Grace’s lack of understanding and knowledge.  Who does she think writes up all of the paving contracts?  Who does she think produces the paving design drawings and specifications?  Who does she think supervises all of this paving work in the field?  She doesn’t seem to understand that all paving projects of this type have Architects and/or Civil Engineers, and they control the execution of their design documents.

Grace also states that – “The paving company told us they would have to go down to bedrock to get a perfect road.”  This is a false statement.  No person employed by any paving company in the country would ever make such an absurd statement.  All that is needed is assurance of a sound, well-compacted gravel base void of fertile material.  Recognizing the stability of existing roadways can easily be determined by testing, such as coring.  A great many times, a crushed stone base is chosen but that is considered for heavy vehicle use.  The real success of a roadway or parking area is its base – the material used and how it is placed.    

              

Grace states further “The cost to go down to bedrock was a lot more than we paid.”  Another stupid statement.  Using the word “bedrock” reveals that she’s trying to impress somebody.  You can talk about a high-rise building and “bedrock” in the same sentence, but not when talking about Bituminous Concrete Roadways.  If the project was done correctly, taking into consideration all of Ed Ross’ “nonsense”, we would have probably saved between one-half to one million dollars, and no doubt have gotten a first-class, quality installation.

Grace comes up with another erroneous statement: “If they paved over the existing road the cracks would come back.”  Well, that’s exactly what they did, - they paved over the existing cracks.  If an Architect was involved, he would have included in his design a workable system of dealing with hairline cracks as well as pavement failures up to an inch or more.  There are special ways to deal with root systems below existing paving, and in this paving job, - it wasn’t even considered. 

Now, Israel wants to spend thousands of our dollars to do something about roots breaking up new pavement.     

      Say you found that you had a flat tire.  The mechanic fixes it, so he says,

      and you pay him and drive away.  After a mile, the same tire goes flat and

      you notice that the nail was never removed.  Do you pay the mechanic a

      second time?                   

                                

Grace goes on to say “THE DELEGATES chose to go with paving over the old road.”  Well, how else do you propose to do the paving?  Grace, there’s something really wrong with what is scrambled around in your head.  It was David Israel and Ed Black who lied to everyone, including you, about the entire paving job, most especially about the money.  Can I convince you, Gracie, that the sky is falling and you should run for cover?

Grace, you now make the most stupid statement of all by “So why sue David Israel?”  Because David Israel, the President of UCO, is totally responsible, - -  absolutely and positively.  Read Mr. Ross’ “nonsense,” and if you can understand common English language, you can understand that Israel MUST be sued.  Just come to reality with what that man has done. 

So, you see, Grace, you know a little bit less than zero when it comes to Bituminous Concrete Paving, and you may even know less when it comes down to reasons for law suits.  It is about damages . . . David Israel, President of UCO, has seriously damaged the property owners of Century Village and he should be held accountable for the damages.  All of the basic facts are out there.

Grace, you seem to have all of your priorities scrambled and you just don’t make any sense at all.  I’m convinced that you just don’t get it.

EDWARD J. ROSS, AIA, FARA, ARCHITECT